# What is the veil **URL:** \ **Category:** Witchy Wisdom\ **Created:** [November 21, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223 "2022-11-21T22:19:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Garnet](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/garnet/32/68320_2.png) [@Garnet](https://forum.spells8.com/u/Garnet)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/1 "2022-11-21T22:19:26Z")
Although complex, and to some, frightening, one must understand what the ‘veil’ is. We are each separate in the _shell_ we call our body. Our lives are finite, but on another plane, we are eternal. There is no beginning and no end. Are we then one with each other and everything? I say yes. The ‘Veil’ is a term used to describe an almost opaque membrane between now and then, before and after, between this world & the next. In its most basic form, it separates the ‘living’ from the ‘dead’. Now, why does this _Membrane, or Veil_ thin in October? I surmise that as the days grow shorter, the world of life & growth is winding down. Harvest is almost over but it isn’t gone. It is a time of great change, a transition of sorts… a “doorway” between seasons, fall/harvest & winter/the great sleep, or death if you will. Under our tiny realm of reality, there lays a massive space (let’s call it eternity). We all start there and we will always return there. But we are all one and the same, even at this moment. Before, after, now & then… The 'veil is at its thinnest in October and we are drawn to certain events or themes. For some reason, we are all drawn by the primary symbols of Halloween. Scary movies, ghosts, cemeteries, zombies, and skeletons are everywhere. I think that when the veil is at its thinnest, our short-lived or finite selves meet our infinite selves. As I was putting this together, it made perfect sense, now…? Perhaps we have all just entered, the “Twilight Zone”. Blessed be Garnet ---
**Author:** ![BryWisteria](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/brywisteria/32/1632_2.png) [@BryWisteria](https://forum.spells8.com/u/BryWisteria)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 10:23am UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/2 "2022-11-22T10:23:08Z")
> [@Garnet](#): > > There is no beginning and no end. Are we then one with each other and everything? I say yes. This aligns with my personal beliefs too 🤝 It’s become a rather cliche phrase, but I do believe that everything really is connected. Everything and Nothing, although they seem to be opposite at times, if they could be placed on something as limiting as a circle, would be the same point. In a process where energy cannot be made not destroyed, the end of one existence can only be the beginning of the next. I’m not able to write it as clearly and eloquently as you do, Garnet, but I have to say this really resonated with me! Thank you, as always, for sharing your very deep and thought-provoking pieces in such a beautiful, enjoyable (and digestible!) way 🥰 > [@Garnet](#): > > Perhaps we have all just entered, the “Twilight Zone”. (The Twilight Zone theme song plays in the background) 😂 https://www.youtube.com/embed/-b5aW08ivHU?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![crystal5](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/crystal5/32/49723_2.png) [@crystal5](https://forum.spells8.com/u/crystal5)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 10:37am UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/3 "2022-11-22T10:37:37Z")
Interesting. Thank you for this exploration. You have a lovely way with words. ---
**Author:** ![Amaris\_Bane](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/amaris_bane/32/22374_2.png) [@Amaris\_Bane](https://forum.spells8.com/u/Amaris_Bane)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/4 "2022-11-22T15:50:18Z")
> [@Garnet](#): > > Perhaps we have all just entered, the “Twilight Zone”. I love that show!! ---
**Author:** ![Garnet](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/garnet/32/68320_2.png) [@Garnet](https://forum.spells8.com/u/Garnet)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 3:15pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/5 "2022-11-24T15:15:33Z")
Twilight Zone scared the 💩 out of me! Outer Limits was another. Garnet ---
**Author:** ![Jacky](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/jacky/32/56061_2.png) [@Jacky](https://forum.spells8.com/u/Jacky)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/6 "2022-11-24T16:28:16Z")
See, that aligns with my belief, but if I’d had to put it into words it wouldn’t have made half as much sense. Thank you for that @Garnet ---
**Author:** ![antoinette](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/antoinette/32/26694_2.png) [@antoinette](https://forum.spells8.com/u/antoinette)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/7 "2022-11-27T01:06:27Z")
Very nice. You wrote that beautifully? ---
**Author:** ![Jacky](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/jacky/32/56061_2.png) [@Jacky](https://forum.spells8.com/u/Jacky)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 9:33am UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/8 "2022-12-06T09:33:32Z")
LOL, thank you 🤣 😍 ---
**Author:** ![yolande1](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/e36b37/32.png) [@yolande1](https://forum.spells8.com/u/yolande1)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:20am UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/9 "2022-12-06T10:20:06Z")
Hi Everyone That was was awesome @Garnet but I have a question… Me being in the Southern Hemisphere, winter is June… So is that then when the veil is the thinnest here? It all gets very confusing because everybody knows that its Halloween in October… That’s when the pumpkins come out… Now bringing pumpkin’s out in June is just weird… Everywhere here in South Africa everyone is celebrating Halloween but in reality the sun is shining and it’s hot… going into summer… ---
**Author:** ![Garnet](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/garnet/32/68320_2.png) [@Garnet](https://forum.spells8.com/u/Garnet)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/10 "2022-12-06T12:56:26Z")
@yolande1 I think Bry posted a wheel for the s. hemisphere. That is such an excellent question, I’ll give it some thought and research it. Thanks Garnet ---
**Author:** ![BryWisteria](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/brywisteria/32/1632_2.png) [@BryWisteria](https://forum.spells8.com/u/BryWisteria)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/11 "2022-12-06T13:15:26Z")
> [@Garnet](#): > > I think Bry posted a wheel for the s. hemisphere. Garnet is right! There are a couple of lovely Wheels for the Southern Hemisphere in the forum- although I’m afraid I can’t claim credit for them! @TheMuslimWitch and @Temujin_Calidius shared their Southern Wheels ☸ 😀 I did a bit of digging, and found two: > [@Wheel of the year SH](https://forum.spells8.com/t/wheel-of-the-year-sh/13989): > > Hi, so as some of you know I was recently asking about the wheel of the year for people in the Southern Hemisphere, so I decided since I get so confused why not make a huge one so I never forget…. I know it’s not perfect but it’s a start blush > [@The Wheel of the Year - Southern Hemisphere](https://forum.spells8.com/t/the-wheel-of-the-year-southern-hemisphere/14466): > > So one thing I will need to get the hang of living in the Southern Hemisphere in my rituals is The Wheel of the Year, except for the Southern Hemisphere. Since all of our seasons are backwards. Makes for interesting times collaborating here hah [[image] ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f4/e5/2f/f4e52fe43b0c5a291ccc00393c220fdf.png) Here’s another great discussion about it as well: > [@Sabbats in the Southern Hemisphere](https://forum.spells8.com/t/sabbats-in-the-southern-hemisphere/13902): > > Hey beautiful witches, i have a question, i know this has most likely been asked but i don’t know the answer so i will ask the question… So i know Mabon is coming up this month and for someone in the Southern Hemisphere like me in Australia, do i celebrate Ostara or do i celebrate Mabon as well even though there is a season difference? * * * > [@yolande1](#): > > I have a question… Me being in the Southern Hemisphere, winter is June… So is that then when the veil is the thinnest here? It is a great question, @yolande1, and if I can put in my personal two cents about it, I would say that **the Sabbats are inherently tied to the seasons** - Sabbats mark key points in the cycle of the year and are festivals and celebrations that honor being present within the current season. That being said, I’ve heard of some Southern witches who follow the Northern Wheel of the Year, and there are certainly witches who live in climates (such as close to the equator) where there aren’t four distinct seasons :sun: At the end of the day, I think **each witch should celebrate and do what feels right to them and their unique practice** 🤝 ❤ However you choose to celebrate, wishing you a very blessed and happy time! Lots of love and blessed be ✨ ---
**Author:** ![yolande1](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/e36b37/32.png) [@yolande1](https://forum.spells8.com/u/yolande1)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/12 "2022-12-06T13:28:53Z")
O my word that is the perfect answer and you are right @BryWisteria. I have been trying so hard to adapt and figure out what happens when that you tend forget what its all about… It is about the seasons and has nothing to do with all the holidays etc etc… Its about honoring the Lord and Lady… Being grateful to Mother Earth for getting us on to the next season. It’s a beautiful thing the seasons and the way the Universe works. That is what’s important at the end of the day. As you say it doesn’t matter if the right season is being celebrated wherever in the world, the fact that you are there and honoring the change of season is what matters… Thank you so much for that inspiration. ---
**Author:** ![BryWisteria](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/brywisteria/32/1632_2.png) [@BryWisteria](https://forum.spells8.com/u/BryWisteria)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 12:16pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/13 "2022-12-07T12:16:12Z")
> [@yolande1](#): > > Thank you so much for that inspiration. You’re very welcome, Yolande- it’s an honor if I could help inspire you! 🥰 Lots of love and blessed be! ❤✨ ---
**Author:** ![antoinette](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/antoinette/32/26694_2.png) [@antoinette](https://forum.spells8.com/u/antoinette)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/14 "2022-12-09T05:51:25Z")
And it is perfect sense. Its your truth and thats whats amazing , we can all sharre without people thinkin were crazy! With that being said I just had the mosted heated conversation with someone… i swear if I could of turned them into a toad. I would of snapped my fingers. Sometimes people think im crazy when religion comes up. And it just makes me so mad… its crazy I just stumble on this post. So mo it sounds amazing! We should never have to question what our believes sound like! Thanks for lwtting me vent. Blessed Be ---
**Author:** ![Garnet](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/garnet/32/68320_2.png) [@Garnet](https://forum.spells8.com/u/Garnet)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/15 "2022-12-09T13:19:21Z")
@antoinette You cannot teach the blind to see or teach the deaf to hear. **What we can do is forgive them.** They are so mired in whatever dogma was drilled into their heads as children. Children are not born with sin, original or otherwise. They are carefully taught by spiritual leaders and others in authority. Unfortunately, teachers and even parents perpetuate the misdirection of young minds and thoughts. Can you see how their circle continues generation after generation? We can only send prayers or rituals into the universe and have their eyes opened with the truth. Blessed be Love you all Garnet ---
**Author:** ![Garnet](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/garnet/32/68320_2.png) [@Garnet](https://forum.spells8.com/u/Garnet)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/16 "2023-10-26T12:41:12Z")
Opinions are like noses, everybody has one and no two are the same. Your **truth** , is just that, **your** truth. Now other religions may condem you or warn you of hell, but what is hell? It came from the book, Dante’s Inferno. It’s the first part of Italian writer Dante Alighieri’s 14th-century epic poem _Divine Comedy_. [Inferno (Dante) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)))) The “church” at that time was corrupt and dictatorial, INFERNO, became the newest whip with which it (the church) essentially tortued an ignorant and frightened population. Garnet ---
**Author:** ![georgia](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/georgia/32/36283_2.png) [@georgia](https://forum.spells8.com/u/georgia)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/17 "2023-10-29T14:49:56Z")
> [@Garnet](#): > > Opinions are like noses, everybody has one and no two are the same. Some say they all smell.😉 I used to say that an old actor named Jimmy Durante had the biggest nose I’d ever seen. He died and took his nose (and his opinions) with him. A lot of our opinions were created in our youth by the authority figures who were just as lost because they were influenced by others in authority. Some of this mess seems to be clearing, lately. Yay! May the cleaning work continue, and Blessed Be the workers! Which is all of us, btw! ---
**Author:** ![starborn](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@starborn](https://forum.spells8.com/u/starborn)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/18 "2023-10-30T08:36:02Z")
> [@georgia](#): > > Some say they all smell.😉 😂 Noses also remind me of one of my favourite Asimov quotes: > People say ‘It’s as plain as the noise on your face.’ But how much of the nose on your face can you see, unless someone hold a mirror up to you? Which speaks to the value of community (such as what we have here). ---
**Author:** ![Sivonnah](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/sivonnah/32/45149_2.png) [@Sivonnah](https://forum.spells8.com/u/Sivonnah)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/19 "2023-11-01T03:00:40Z")
So I had an interesting interaction yesterday regarding the veil. Through a medium we channeled the other side. Several spirits came through. One said that the veil will remain open. Spirit is finding it harder to communicate with us and wants to leave the veil thin so they can help and guide us better. I hope this is true as I am reaching out to my spirit guides abd ancestors. I’ve definitely been connecting more the last few days. I guess we’ll find out soon! ---
**Author:** ![marta](https://spells8.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.spells8.com/marta/32/34946_2.png) [@marta](https://forum.spells8.com/u/marta)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:27am UTC](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223/20 "2023-11-01T10:27:59Z")
As usual, I have a million thoughts lol. I was wondering for the last 2 days why is the veil there in the first place. Just a lil halloween candle got me to that point… Is it to protect us from the world of dead? Is it to protect the dead from our world? Or simply because they know more and should not disclose certain things to us? I like to believe it’s like a border of a country. We reach it and need a passport to go further, but in this case our soul and life is a one time ticket. As they say - let’s remember that down here, we all lost somebody. There, however, they lost all of us. [Next page](https://forum.spells8.com/t/what-is-the-veil/31223.md?page=2)