New Moon Water 
I’ve never really given it much thought as to where the moon physical is during the new moon cycle. I was planning to make some New Moon Water (dec 3, 2021) and used my skyview app to locate her. 
Well, the moon was hanging out with the sun below the horizon. I’ve seen countless illustrations of the earth moon and sun cycles but it didn’t dawn on me as to how it looks from my perspective. (lol, it takes me awhile to really “get” some ideas.)
It seems the directions are to keep the water out of sunlight so it is the darkness of the night rather than where the moon is in the sky that guides this? I realize that I’ve got my science hat on but my whole way of seeing things is shoke! 
I’m totally new to Moon Water, enjoyed using my Full Moon water and am eager to gather more information from you sage Luna souls. At the end of the day I return to my intuition, but love learning and connection with others.
Inquiring mind needs to know 
Cheers,
Janis
edit: I found some answers! Moon rise and MoonSet