Paranormal beliefs and frameworks

Hey y’all!

I’ve been sitting with something from a past experience that I don’t really have neat language for, because the more I try to reduce it, the less accurate it feels.

What I went through, I would describe as an extended interaction with what I can only call a trickster-type presence or influence. Not constant, not always obvious, but persistent in the way it seemed to affect perception, timing, and emotional escalation.

I’m not trying to convince anyone of a universal explanation. I’m only describing how it felt from inside it, and what patterns I noticed around it.

What stood out just as much as the experience itself was how people around me responded to it.

Specifically: disbelief.

And I don’t just mean disagreement. I mean being told, directly or indirectly, that what I was experiencing wasn’t real, or couldn’t be happening.

That kind of response doesn’t just feel dismissive. When someone is already overwhelmed, it can make everything worse. You start doubting your own perception in real time. You stop trusting your instincts. You start monitoring yourself instead of actually processing what you’re going through.

And that’s where things can get unstable.

Because once you lose trust in your own perception, everything becomes internalized and self-questioned. There’s no external anchor anymore, just you trying to figure out if you’re “allowed” to trust what you’re experiencing.

From my perspective, whatever someone believes about the source of an experience, attention and emotional focus do matter.

In spiritual language, people might describe this using ideas like egregores or thoughtforms—where repeated attention, fear, discussion, or belief can give something more structure, intensity, or persistence than it originally had on its own.

Whether someone takes that literally or symbolically, the pattern I noticed is the same:

Attention changes experience.

But it doesn’t only change it one way.

Different types of response can affect things differently:
• Dismissal can make a person feel isolated and mentally unstable, because they lose grounding in what they’re experiencing
• Over-validation or intense focus can sometimes make the experience feel bigger or more consuming than it already is

Neither extreme is helpful on its own.

What seems more helpful is something much simpler:

Acknowledgment without escalation.

Presence without obsession.

Basically: letting someone know you hear them, without turning it into either a debate or a deep spiral.

Something like:
“I hear you. That sounds intense. You’re not alone in what you’re going through.”

Because in my experience, once someone is isolated inside an overwhelming experience—whatever framework you use to understand it—everything becomes louder inside their own head.

And getting back to center becomes harder than it looks from the outside.

For me, the biggest takeaway isn’t proving what anything is or isn’t.

It’s that how we respond to each other matters more than we realize, because it shapes whether someone feels grounded… or more lost inside what they’re already carrying.

> Bottom line: it costs nothing to be kind, and sometimes it’s enough just to be believed.

As always,
Your witchy friend from the bayou’s,
Kristina

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I find that the people who act like that have minds that are closed to just about anything special or new. I’m sorry you had to go through that. It’s terrible that you had a bad experience an no one supported you!

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Well thank you. But I am not looking for apology. Nobody did anything wrong. I didn’t understand parapsychology at the time. It was just one of those things I guess ya know. It’s okay. I’m okay. But I see it alot on tiktok. I see a lot of people who are afraid and don’t know what to do, and they’re scared to say anything. They’re scared to talk because they don’t want another label on them.
But I wanted to tell my witchy friends what was on my mind because y’all understand. Y’all know what an egregore is and a trickster spirit. It’s just nice to be understood the first time without having to explain the definition of each technical term used. Plus I know y’all know this. I know y’all know being believed does ground you.
But I guess I was targeting more for an inspirational type of article using my own experiences and what I speculated deepest about those situations, and yes, not being believed was definitely #1.
It sucked. But it’s fine. Because now he sees it too.. now we’re both crazy. :rofl::joy::woman_shrugging::woman_facepalming:

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: That’s awesome!!!

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Oh, you were very inspirational! I mean, even if it was in someone’s head, you don’t disbelieve them. Their experience is valid. But I’m glad he sees it too now.

And if this world, if you’re not crazy, I’d worry about you.

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I have had several paranormal experiences and honestly, I care less if someone believes me or not. I try to keep an open mind on everything, but there was one time in my life where someone told me something and it was pretty hard to believe. My husband (ex now) was 3 hours late coming home. He told me that he had no memory of the last 3 hours and he must have been abducted by aliens. I’m pretty open to people’s experiences, but I called BS on that one! But now, it’s so crazy it may have been true! Who would make something up like that? Bob, Bob would.:rofl:

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Christina, thanks for sharing. I lead a paranormal group, Black Hills Paranormal Investigations. Something is bothering you be it mundande or not. I would get ahold of a reputable paranormal group in your area and ask them to come in. You would get some type of answer, whether you like the results or not.

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I have had experiences and wasn’t believed. I have tried to express my feelings about them and found the words were ungrounded and hard to explain, so I released them to the Universe. Even that didn’t help me. Thank you for expressing what I could not.

I have learned along the way to keep the experiences. My definitions of those experiences may change over time, may be explained or deemed not useful in my everyday life; however, the experience itself is sacred.

Do you mind if I keep your main post in my BOS? I acknowledge there is more to it… for each of us, and each story will be different. The commonalities are important and valuable.

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Another Factor you always have to add in is that we don’t always contain our own thoughts as far as what is it darvo or the gov I won’t say too much because I’m the crazy person in the group here nice to meet you. Mind control.

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Oh yes. Like it doesn’t even mess with me much anymore. Lol. It goes after him. One time his truck started stalling so he walked the rest of the way home, it wasn’t far, just died out at the beginning of our driveway, but our drive way is like half a mile long. So he’s walking. , it’s late at night. Must’ve been about 2 AM, and he’s wearing some slide type sandals, and he said as he was walking, he started seeing this black misty like mass like run past him while simultaneously like getting in his face, snd it spooked him, so he threw one of his sandals at it and ran, kicked off the other one at the door outside, He come in the house, about 30 minutes later he goes outside, and both his sandals were now on the steps. He said I think I experienced something paranormal for the first time. :joy: I said that’s not the first time! :joy: I said man I wish I was haunted by such a kind ghost, it brought your shoe back for you! It said “oops, you dropped this” (even though he threw it hard ) & brought it back to you so you didn’t have one lonely sad slide from Walmart. :joy:

Now I do have a question and I’m not sure who to Amal or what to research so hopefully someone can give me a little insight, but I believe whatever he saw, I believe that’s what pretends to be him, and mocks his voice and calls me from my back yard, in the middle of the day, in the storming , pouring down cats and dogs, and I’m just like nope . :joy: I walked backwards actually to the window that faces the back yard , and I reached over and twisted the little window blind stick as fast as I could because at that point it was still hollering and I didn’t want to look out the window. I don’t know why I did that, nobody ever taught me to do that, I just did it. :woman_shrugging: and I’m glad I did too, because it hasn’t called my name since. It’s done other weird things, just not that. It’s even banged on my floor from up under my house. I woke up one night from a late afternoon nap, must’ve been about ten o’clock at night. I have an open floor plan, so it’s all one big room basically, my living room and kitchen, and I could hear my husband and another man talking so loudly from under the house, I didn’t know why they’d be under the house that late, but we do have some plumbing leaks, and my husband is a plumber, so I just quickly and logically assumed he had gotten a friend to come help him maybe? Idk? It wouldn’t be odd if that did happen though. So as I’m walking to the fridge to get a drink, I can hear them distinctly cutting up and laughing and joking, and then it’s almost as if someone’s elbow or head maybe hit the bottom of the subfloor, cuz like it hit hard. I felt it from under my feet. It was really hard. And then I hear laughing, so I’m like let me go check on this do do, and I walk outside and it’s instantly silent. Like eerily silent. And that’s never a good thing around here. Like I could hear my heart beating against the stillness of the silence in the air.. I walk around the front of my house and stick my head around the corner, and it’s completely pitch black and even more spooky than how the front was looking… so I said loudly, “ Gavin, are you out here?” … nothing. I ran into my house and went to the other room, and I say babe, you in here?! He said yes why? What’s up?
I said how long you been in here? He said “idk about 3 hours maybe.” I said “you wasn’t outside fixing water leaks under the house?” He said “… what? No.. “
And then I realized what was happening. This happened maybe 3 months ago.
Another time, separate time, my husband was sitting in our kids play room on the bed, and the window was open, I forgot why.. but he’s eye to eye with the window blinds, like staring at it mindlessly, and he said he saw a hand , like a shadow of a hand :raised_back_of_hand: push into the blinds , moving them forward. He said he then jumped up, and looked out the window as fast as he could (because our neighborhood has thieves & he thought that’s what that was,) but when he stuck his head out the window, nobody was there. He didn’t see or hear anyone running. And trust me, it’s Louisiana , you’re going to hear someone running because it’s not easy running through body’s of water with rubber boats on. :joy: I’m so serious. So you’re going to hear it even if you don’t see it cuz it’s so dark at night. And I just didn’t know what to say.

Another time when we first moved in, I was vacuuming, and YouTube was playing in the tv , so it was loud. The kids were outside with their dad mowing grass, and as I’m vacuuming, I hear and feel someone or something make a human sneeze in my left ear. Like I felt the wetness , I felt their hot breath, I felt the nasties flying on my face.. but nobody was there.. just me.. I don’t know how to explain that either but it happened :joy:

**I do want to give a trigger warning, what I’m about to say involves self elimination **

So the property I live on is my husbands late uncles property originally. But in 2015, on Christmas morning, they found him in his bed.. ya know.. becoming gaseous. And then my husbands mom received all of her brothers sssets and the land and just everything of his. So she gave my husband the house that he just found his uncle in.. he remodeled it. And then 2 years later we meet around Christmas time.. and idk. I just think that may also play a part in some of it. I’m not really sure though, so. I mean I do know that tragedy can open portals or whatever it is some people say, but I mean I have no wsy of finding out or knowing… I wish.. lol. I wish ghosts would talk to me ! They’d never be bored!

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I’ve heard of that happening to other people. People who just slip out of time, or something happens, and they don’t remember anything, and they weren’t seen. So I guess it depends on whether you trust Bob or not.

Well, whatever it was, it brought his slippers back. That’s good.

But yeah, your Hubby’s late uncle may be hanging around. The first house I was brought home to when I was born was haunted. Like, everything out of the closets would be on the bed, or all the cabinets would be empty, and cans on the table. It was in Alaska, a strange state as it is. There was snow on the ground, and the only tracks were like those of my parents leaving.

But the house has belonged to a family friend. He had died and had been a drunk and a womanizer and a chain smoker of nasty cigars. Anyhow, when he was buried, he was in a suit, with the bible, a rosary, and a rose in his hands. Mom and Dad always said he was haunting the place, looking for cigars and a beer. So it would be unfinished business of some sort of the uncle’s. You never know.

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Maybe it is the uncle. It seems to be a nice spirit since it brought back hubby’s shoes.

Have you ever tried talking to it? When the girls and I see things in the house I work in, I tell the spirits to leave the girls alone because it scares them. It has worked so far. It seems like the spirits show up whenever we get a new girl in the house. The girls have all been traumatized in their life, so maybe it’s the energy they bring with them.

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You know, I actually thought about it, but I never thought about asking my husband to do it until now. Lol. I’m not sure if he would. He might, if I mentioned it maybe … But he would definitely try to push back against anything spiritual I say. One time I accidentally messed up and told my husband that I guaranteed this 4 wheeler would catch fire, I was mad. Someone drove the bike to our house and it was not fdxxd fxcxxcd over , so the dude left it d

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