Gray magic for the highest good?

[SuckOnMySunshine]

TRIGGER WARNING : VIDEO LINK CONTAINS CHILD ABUSE AND BATTERY ON CHILDREN

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Hello My amazing online coven!

I just need to get this off my chest, but it will result in a genuine, serious, honest to God question. Just bare with me here, & hear me out.

So, I keep on seeing news segments about these grown… Individuals.. (I honestly want to call them every cuss word I can come across, but I won’t disrespect my coven that way) but yes individuals, who have been on this earth for a good half a century, id estimate .. that like to put their hands on little kids, & this is happening within the school system, or within learning centers & settings. There’s no single individual that I’m specifically speaking about, but there is a collective , if you will, of these teachers , tutors, care givers, special education teachers & assistants, day care workers, baby sitters, etc etc. When I see this stuff on my TV or on my tiktok feed, I can’t help but feel LIVID!!! I attached an example of just 1 single incident that I’m referring to, please watch at your own risk, it does show battery on a poor defenseless little angel .. but it is what has me so… FIREY MAD CURRENTLY.

I personally have never attempted to do any type of baneful magick or working, like ever in my life… but when I see this stuff, it just breaks my heart into little pieces for the family’s that have to go through this, the children that have to endure this abuse, and man, it just makes my soul scream. I know I have the meaning and resources,supplies, the will, the want, the drive to do something about it in my own little special way… (I’m not trying to save the whole world or anything.. I’m not a super hero from the bayou with a bobby boucher from the movie ‘The water boy’ accent, thats more of a houma accent anyways, but I digress)

I just want to know… when or if anyone who has done grey magick workings for the highest good of course, like … how did you go about that? Is that okay to do? I don’t know the people in the video attached, I literally just watched it for the first time 5 minutes ago. But this is not the first, the only, or the last video of it’s kind that I will see. I know that much. But I have always been taught or conditioned, I guess, to ask for permission to do working on behalf of others. I also know that not every single witch, conjuror, root worker, or practitioner, follows a neat little guideline hand book.. I do believe a lot of it is nuanced and that’s a grey area .. which lines up quite perfectly for grey magick in my opinion…

I just want to get some advice or some help maybe. Heck if y’all are as p*ssed off as I am right now, after watching that video, maybe we could even make this a group thing, if interested? Just tossing it up in the air… if I’m out of line, I hope someone corrects me immediately, which I will apologize immediately. My intent is not to make any disrespectful disruptions within my witchy community, but to bring to light the malevolence of these perps. I DO NOT FEEL LIKE 2 YEARS IS A GOOD ENOUGH SENTENCE, IM SORRY.

By any and all means, I’m also not trying to play God, or the judge or whatever … but I honestly do feel like justice was not served! It was not in the best interest of the family or families I should say since I’m speaking collectively, but using this as an example, it’s just not.. it’s not right.

The part of the video that I think that really has me triggered is the end where the news reporters says "the child says she likes her school because nobody hits her. " . And I just .. I don’t know…

But I’m willing to learn and to participate, and to hopefully get this out there Into the witchy community, to the right person or people, who are willing to teach me how to do justice magick the correct way. I don’t want or need any back lash, which I don’t think I’d get if I did it alone.. but I’m a little nervous to open that door… it’s never even been unlocked much less opened before.

I appreciate every person who took their time to read this, and i apologize in advance if I upset anyone or disrupted your energy.

From the bottom of my heart, Thank you for reading this.

Signing out -From the bottom of the boot in the bayous,

Your friend,

Kristina

[georgia]

@SuckOnMySunshine

… it’s never even been unlocked much less opened before.

Yes, it has. Believe it or not.

Doing it “correctly” may be a different matter, but I have dedicated much of my life to getting this kind of thing eradicated. Been there, though my mother prided herself on not having left a mark on me.

If you want proof that I have tried, read Unicorn’s Harvest, here.

I wish I could say all those who have put forth effort to eradicate such behavior, whether physical, mental, emotional, or otherwise have had some cumulative effect on our society, but if you truly believe that door has not been opened, our efforts have been sorely lacking. I encourage you to join us in our fight for the innocent, however you feel you can. We appreciate the effort.

[katharina]

I don´t even have to watch the video…I know terrifying things are happening out there to the most vulnerable. Welcome to dystopian patriarchy.

We have a thread about dark magic here

What's your guys opinion on Black/Dark Magick?

This is on baneful Magick right? I’ve not used it to harm anyone. I used it once to detach myself from a harmful situation, to break the emotional hold it was having over me. It’s the one and only time I used baneful and blood Magick, but I needed something very strong to remove my attachment to the organisation, so I sort of did the spell on me. It broke the link. I don’t personally think hexing or the such works for me, as I think it prolongs the pain. I also feel it’s never good to do spells …

Maybe you can find some information that will help you.

If you want more like hands-on information, like herbs, recipes for war water etc…I could give you some, but maybe do this better with private messenger, considering there are minors in the forum.

[TS5]

Thankyou for sharing this, I’ve not watched it. Please don’t take this wrong, I’ve literally just shut down my patreon, discord, group chats and so much more as I’m tired of these shares. I’m on the United Nations mail list, an active member of Greenpeace, 38Degrees and Big Brotherwatch, the world is a mess, can we please for the sake of those not able to handle this stuff stop sharing sensational tiktok videos, if we want to change the world/patriachy then we need boots on the ground activism, not constant shock shares, these achieve nothing, I have found that when I directly contact the people on discord, tiktok etc who share these videos and ask them to join me in real offline activism for change, they refuse, all of a sudden they don’t want to put their name/money to organisations that actually do change peoples lives, rights and freedoms, and it makes me mad. If you want to do real activism, DM me and I have a list of organisations fighting for human rights as long as your arm that are crying out for people like you who care deeply and want change.

The thread shared by @katharina is good, just something to add as I’m now using this as part of Trolldom (Nordic folk magic) baneful can be defensive, hexes, curses and justice magic, so I write the below about it in justice magic.

BANEFUL magic weaves the threads of fate to manipulate events and outcomes, but you also have to be active and participate in the mundane world, can you carry that and are you prepared to put your identity to the mundane actions that the baneful spell will require, I practice baneful, it’s a part of Nordic witchcraft, I use it in my activism and the price is high, it’s not stay at home casting, it’s putting your name on petitions, joining organisations that raise issues and alerts, and being seen and counted, that’s the Norse way, the spells work but at a cost to your time, energy and quiet life, please handle this side of magick particularly with justice issues with care, Tyr is a harsh deity that works in baneful but will require action on your part too, even with other deities, you start casting justice magic, the spirits that aid that demand action from you too, just saying.

If you are really wanting to do baneful for this situation, DM me, I have a rune spell currently in the works for fighting organisations that are cruel/tyrannical which I cannot name here, but as I said above, you will find your inbox will mysteriously get emails from organisations that fight these injustices who don’t know how they got your email, people will give you leaflets on the street and all sorts, but I’m happy to partner with you.

As far as tiktok shares, I’m done, so many witches are sharing these but they won’t do the mundane and it breaks me. This is the last space for me and if it’s going to happen here too, I’m out. Sorry if this offends anyone.

Skal

[Amethyst]

I’ve stopped watching the news and only glance at sites like Yahoo News for the headlines. I was getting things daily on terrible abuse cases, killing, and just awful stuff. I couldn’t handle it anymore and made the choice to stop most of it. I get my weather from my app, national news from Yahoo, and if there’s anything nearby that I need to know, Sally gives me a link to the Facebook news. That’s it. I can’t handle it anymore. It’s disgusting how some people act!

I truly believe that something happened during the pandemic. I don’t know if it’s just that too many decent people died or what, but to me, it’s as if the world has gotten uglier. You couldn’t pay me to be in customer service anymore. It’s a wonder fast food places can’t keep employees; people treat them like garbage.

And don’t get me started on the so-called Manosphere. That crap frightens me.

So yeah, I hexed Darth Cheeto once, but while I think it worked, I hexed him with a chaos spell, and well, who could tell the difference?

I’ve used the book Utterly Wicked by Dorothy Morrison, but I’ve been looking for more social justice books. These are the ones I’ve put on my wish list:

Witchcraft Activism: A Toolkit for Magical Resistance (Includes Spells for Social Justice, Civil Rights, the Environment, and More) by David Salisbury

Revolutionary Witchcraft: A Guide to Magical Activism by Sarah Lyons

Hexing the Patriarchy: 26 Potions, Spells, and Magical Elixirs to Embolden the Resistance by Ariel Gore

and The Power of Hex: Spells, Incantations, and Rituals by Shawn Engle.

I think I’m going to start with the first one, because I have no problem with grey magic. To me, Nature is red of tooth and claw, and well, sometimes, you just gotta be a Momma Grizzly and smack someone with a full set of claws at full strength to get their attention.

[katharina]

@TS5

but you also have to be active and participate in the mundane world,

Thank you @TS5 for pointing this out!
In my humble opinion this is true for every type of spellwork, there needs to be energetic alignment for spells to manifest. Being clear on the intent, your mind focused like an arrow, your spell working on the spiritual level and your intellectual and physical actions working on the mundane level.

For me, as a rule of thumb, I will always make sure that every spell is supported by three physical/mundane actions.