So i have been really gettung into my learning my divination systems and learning kipper and lemormand as well as continue tarot, ogham and runes.
Anyone whose looking for good guides to kipper ( esp as not much out there on this one in english ) and lenormand. Cardgeek or Toni Puhle/Savory ( hope spelt right). Not sure if one maiden name one marrued but seen name with vith on videos and ive found her content awesome. Free videos on youtube and ive just signed up for sone if courses on udemy. Sge us founder of world divination assiciation and they also have more on theur site if looking for more courses or accreditation in a system. Like i think endorsed reader sort of thing.
Hope its cool to share this here. Spells 8 got great resources on tarot which has been my starting point there but as id also been looking at other systems too and maybe others might like or interested to know other systens and how can learn more just thoufht id share. Im reacjing for my lenormand and kipper cards alot lately cause so excited to learn espevialky how to better read a grand tableu in both systems. If you look up card geek. She is great and id even love to try get hold of her rainbow kipper deck or her book. Yoi kniw me and my rainbows. She even explains the history and different decks and directional readungs etc between decks. Origibal decks hadca change at one point whivh was images transposed and she gives good insights into original meanings and very energetic and passionate abour her stuff. I was gettung a bit confused at first with some lenormand stuff because the techniques being shiwn didnt include basic reafing or underatanding but almost started with rhe advanced techniques. But card geek or Toni, she goes from basic to advanced techniques and ive found her content really helpful in understanding these two new systems im learning.
Just thought id share this and i hope its ok to share. I dont want to take away from content or lesons on here as they have been a great resource. The tarot course on here is where i started. But as lenormand and kipper are not on this platform ( though i am happy to share my learnings and stuff if ppl want yo knkw more, ive just discocered systems recenlty and i knkw this community has lots of ppl wuth different backgrounds interests etc and kts a great place ti share info) i just wanted to share my discoveriesincase anyone interested in the system lr looking at learning more. So i hope thats ok to share that herre.
@Phoenix_Fire it is absolutely, perfectly fine, & encouraged to share things that you may be interested in or learning about with us!
I would love to know more about the Lenormand divination practice. Iāve seen some decks that Iāve liked, but I donāt know much about it at all. I only recently learned or heard about it here when you have brought it up in the past!
I look forward to anything you you would like to share about this type of divination!
Omg yeah happy to hey. Im actually participating in reading buddy practice, my second week but im going to try practice read for lenormand this week. You get paired with someonr in group whose also learning and you do practice reads for the week ahead.
Im happy to share what i learn as i go espevually if ppl interested. . Ive got the app under the roses lenormand that i like using alot. Maybe i can use thar to share some of what ive been learningā:grin:
I want to get the physical deck but i thought id quickly show the app i use and some screenshots of types of spreads. I do have a free download that was able to print and make a tempory deck so can physically shuffle and lay then i enter it in as a external spread if want to use the cards from the deck on app. Helps to keep directional reading etc consistant say if some imagery on decks is different to one i use. I think Kipper is more directional that lenormand but still has some directionality in reads especially with significators ( man or woman for person being read for or doung reading if reading for yourself)
Man and woman significator cards has two options for each but the deck itself is 36 cards. Another option to use is a normal playing deck and just translating the cards to what they are in deck as the deck or cards have the playing card indicator om there. Im told that will be imporyant down the line of my learning to use the sysyem so having cards to use that show this like 6 of diomands or king of spades etc will add ectra meaning. But ive not got that far in learning yet lol. But i like using the app for the visual cues. Ive screen shotted the cards so can see what a deck includes and what this one looks like.
The cards above are listed in order of how the houses in a grand tableau would be layed out. From 1. Rider to 36. Cross.
The cards that fall in each house also add to the read as well as where they fall, where the significator falls and even in reads where relationship of some sort can look at where the two significators fall conpared to each other and whats going on between them and how connectef etc. But im single so i havent focused too much on that side yet. Lol
But there are different spreads and ways to read the cards. Its exciting to learn a new system. Scary too cause sometimes worry read it wrong but i am learning and becoming more confident in it.
Iām with Siofra- youāre always welcome to share about your studies and what youāve been finding, itās sure to help someone else who is interested in the same thing! Thanks for passing along the wisdom, @Phoenix_Fire- itās a blessing!
What a fun deck- Iām loving the artwork! And that is so convenient to have the app on your phone, you can draw a card and do a reading even when youāre out and about. Thatās really valuable for a witch on the road!
Thanks again for sharing, Pheonix- and good luck with your continued studies! With every update you share, Iām always impressed with how far you have come on your learning journey. Youāre truly advancing in your divination studies!
I am totally in agreement with this! The artwork is amazing! Now Iām really intrigued! I actually thought that maybe my Old Cartomancy deck may have said Lenormand but I was wrongā¦ they are Traditional Italian Fortune Cards for Old Cartomancyā¦ I was hoping though!
I think I am going to check out the app & see how I do, where I am currently taking tarot classes, I donāt think that I could learn this at the same time without getting somewhat confused. But I would love to have the app to use when I can to kind of see what I can learn about it that way!
I have two Lenormand decks: Scrying Ink and Tales for Tomorrow by MJ Cullinane. The Scrying Ink is pretty, however, I never really connected to it. I love my Tales deck, tho I will admit Iām partial to her artwork.
I just took a very short course on Lenormand, got a couple of decks, then decided I didnāt like the artwork on any of them (though they are very usable). I started designing my own - something I wanted to do with Tarot but was too daunted by all the cards I needed to create..
I started today and got 12 cards in. The first couple were hard but I got into a routine and manage to cough up 10 more before my eyes crossed.
Iām going to order the card labels they have on Amazon and see if they work. If not, Iāll build a program to display them on my 'puter.
Here is the first draft of three of them. I used an AI program to make the pictures and added hints since Iām new to it and wanted my hand held a little. They still have to be sized for the actual paper version but they are fairly close.
The idea of designing a tarot deck is a fun one, but Iām right there with you that 78 cards is quite the project! Making a Lenormand or oracle deck offers more flexibility and less cards. I really love the ones youāve shared! I think adding the notes and reminders is a great way to build a helpful deck.
Keep up the good work, Dan (and please keep us updated!). Canāt wait to hear how the rest of the deck turns out!
Here are the cards in their current draft form. I will print out a trial deck when my supplies come in. Original pictures are in Word table format. While it was a bit tedious, it didnāt take too long in the great scream of things. I tried to use a format that Spells8 accepts.
My intent was to make poker size cards (Lenormand traditionalists seem to only accept the petite size but those are too small for my hands). Also, I have yet to find a set of cards that have specific hints about their meaning and their pictures are, on most, too simple to invite intuition.
So here is what I intend to be my practice set - subject to modification as I progress through printing and finding places I may have fat thumbed things.
Note: While this set is meant to be in 3 1/2 by 2 1/2 size (Poker), it can be printed in any size if one is true of heart.
All artwork starts as AI generated but modified for color matching (when appropriate), sizing, and added information. I used the generator at magicstudio.com (free).
Hints are taken from the āPixiesā Lenormand guide book and from the Rosedeivination.com cheat sheet. Of necessity, hints are not complete but are what I chose as important for the card - YMMV.
And now the deck is doneā¦ wellā¦ version .001352 is done.
I used it last night and it is easy to shuffle and seems to have the features I wanted. It has a few boo-boos but overall it is functional and working well.
@Phoenix_Fire The Lenormand Grande Tableu was a bit too much for me so I decided to make my own 9 card spread. It uses the first 9 cards as the houses. Then when I felt good with that, I would shuffle both decks, place 9 cards down for the house in what ever random order they showed up then used the second deck as normal. It really helped me to connect the cards and read it different ways. Let me know if you try it.
Yes for me, too. However, Iāve settled on three card draws (modifier/subject/modifier) and using them to interpret the simple daily questions over on the thread about daily Tarot draws that @Artemisia runs HERE. They are amazingly good at that and it is an easy and fun way to learn them.
I just did a reading using 2 decks. The first one is the āMaybe Lenormandā by Ryan Edward and the second is āHouse of Shadowsā by Monica Bodirsky (one of my favorites). So my questions was in regards to a new semester starting in June. The house is 49 Lightening bolt.(its not in the standard decks) then mountains. Sudden obstacles showing up at the beginning of the semester. Butā¦ 47 hearth (also not standard) I am taking online classes in the comfort of my home and it will bring me peace during this time. Then, the heaviness of it all will get swiftly cut out!
In my readings, Iām understanding the need to have more cards to tell a story rather than just a sentence about the focus. In this case, you tell a story. While Iām reluctant to use extra cards (or non-Lenormand cards) I am starting to use Lenormand to explain or add to a Tarot draw - which, in my slightly clouded mind, is similar.
In your specific case, that last pair was pretty definitive. Lenormand can be āin your faceā. It is a great feature of using them. Rosedivination.com has some videos that take a subject card and then draw two explainer cardsā¦ and then draw two more, etc. The story unfolds as it all progresses. Iām going to try some five card draws with pairing and see how it goes.
You know, perhaps a separate Lenormand is warranted I feel itās different enough in how itās read with pairing and mirroring and many others might want to learn, practice or contribute.
It deserves itās own thread as many people might not read this one or have trouble finding Lenormand specific info in the Tarot spread.
I would love it but it may be just two or three of us at first. Since you run the Tarot version, would it be wrong to include Lenormand in it? I know Iāve hijacked it with my three card draws lately anyway (sorry) but I would love to have a ādailyā version to practice. The source for the questions is appropriate for Lenormand as well as Tarot. Although a large spread isnāt needed - just as for Tarot.
Orā¦ if that wonāt work, a new thread could be primed by moving the latest posts from here to the new one.
More brainstorming. For which I come ill equippedā¦
to know more about the Lenormand divination practice. Iāve seen some decks that Iāve liked, but I donāt know much about it at all. I only recently learned or heard about it here when you have brought it up in the past!
. Ive got the app under the roses lenormand that i like using alot. Maybe i can use thar to share some of what ive been learningā:grin:
Thanks for passing along the wisdom, 
The artwork is amazing! Now Iām really intrigued! I actually thought that maybe my Old Cartomancy deck may have said Lenormand but I was wrongā¦ they are Traditional Italian Fortune Cards for Old Cartomancyā¦ I was hoping though!
I feel itās different enough in how itās read with pairing and mirroring and many others might want to learn, practice or contribute.
as many people might not read this one or have trouble finding Lenormand specific info in the Tarot spread.
