Muin - Vine || Learning Ogham

Next up on our ogham journey is Muin. Not sure what ogham is? Here is a quick refresh…

Ogham is an ancient Irish inscription alphabet that was used to inscribe headstones and other important markers. In mythology, it was created by the God Ogma (OH-muh) to warn Lugh about a plot to steal his wife. Today, Ogham is used in magic and divination.

If you want to learn more about what ogham is in general, I wrote about that here: Irish Tree Language - The Ogham :evergreen_tree:

I also have a video explaining the origin story of ogham that you can watch here: https://youtu.be/CWEm2pcAFc8

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We have officially reached the third aicme of the Ogham as we learn about Muin. The word itself is associated with love, esteem, and trickery, while the keyword given for this particular fíd is communication. This is another fíd that can be difficult to pull in a reading but not because the meaning is more negative. Instead, this fíd deals with communication in all its forms, from the confessions of passion to the wickedest of lies. It deals with the way others communicate to you but also with the way you communicate to others. Muin is a fíd of finding your voice, especially if you are not used to using it to your full potential.

According to Weaving Word Wisdom, there are three word oghams associated with Muin. They are as follows.

  • tressam fedmae - strongest of powers, i.e. the desire or affection for another, strongest of effort, strongest in exertion
  • árusc n-airlig - condition of slaughter, proverb of slaughter
  • conar gotha - path of the voice

We can read part of these word oghams from The Ogham Tract.

Tresim fedma, strongest of effort, that is muin, vine, m, with him, i.e., owing to identity of name with muin, back of man or ox, for it is they that are the strongest in existence as regards effort.

Arusc n-airlig, condition of slaughter,muin a man’s back, m. Hence for its synonymous letter.

The Ogham Tract

The Ogham Tract gives us insight into how we can interpret this fíd in a reading. The first, Tresim fedma, is the strongest of effort. This points to how complicated communication can be. Even if you are being deceitful, holding up lies can be a very stressful process that requires a lot of effort. On the other side, being the most honest and vulnerable version of yourself can also take a lot of skill and effort. Putting yourself out there and opening yourself up to others also opens you up to being hurt or taken advantage of.

The Vine

The Vine is not a traditional tree at all but it is listed as the tree for this fíd. The finemain (vine) covers many different types of vine, but in this case, it may specifically refer to grapes. An interesting thing to note is that grapevines are not native to Ireland, nor do they grow easily in the Irish climate. Erynn Rowan Laurie thinks that Muin being tied to grapes or vines is a nod to the importance of wine to early Christian ritual, as the alcoholic beverages associated with early Celtic ritual are mead and ale.

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What is interesting to me is the association here with grapes and communication, especially if we are speaking in terms of alcohol. It is common knowledge among adults familiar with alcohol that drinking it tends to leave one feeling pleasant and relaxed. Drink too much, though, and you will feel absolutely horrible. It brings to mind a phrase I have often heard said about those who drink and become a bit chatty – drunken words are sober thoughts – leaving many people to think that alcohol can help with communication in both good ways and bad. It can open you up to be more vulnerable and honest, but it can also let fly anything you have been keeping hidden or secret from others.

In Divination

There are many ways you can interpret Muin in a reading, but they will all most likely have to do with putting in the work or communicating in some form. One suggested interpretation of Muin from Weaving Word Wisdom is that of physical manifestations of truths such as passion and desire. Knowing this, it is clear that this fíd covers communication in all forms, not just verbal or written. To understand what Muin might mean in your reading, the context of your situation will be important as well as any other feda that you pull if you do so.

Here are some keywords I’ve come up with in my studies for Muin regarding divination.

  • desire
  • passion
  • trickery
  • lies and deceit
  • half-truths
  • ignorance
  • vulnerability
  • love languages
  • effort
  • burdens, often heavy ones
  • concealment
  • heavy emotions
  • flattery
  • finding your voice

At the end of every fíd in her book, Erynn has questions and linked concepts to think about for each one. For Muin, she writes the following…

How do I communicate with others? How do I interpret what they are saying to me?

A Personal Note

This is another víd I don’t have a personal connection with. I have always tried to be an honest person. It is hard sometimes, especially when honesty feels like it will cause more harm than not. However, I think I can relate to this fíd through some personal work on finding my voice and speaking my mind. I am pretty good at being honest, but speaking up when I am struggling has always been an issue.

One suggested method of working with Muin in magic is for self-expression. Personally, I may explore this part of Muin in a spell or ritual sometime in the future.

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Sources and Further Reading

Celtic Ogham Symbols and Their Meanings
The Ogham Tract
– [1] Weaving Word Wisdom by Erynn Rowan Laurie

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It looks like naudhiz :naudiz:
I’ve never explored the two systems, Ogham and Runes being connected, but wonder if they were both in operation in the UK at the same time. The Vikings were in Ireland, did the two cultures collide? :thinking: So much has been lost.

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I’m sure they did. It’s believed that Ogham was created sometime before or around the 4th century CE. I’m not sure if there’s a connection between the two systems of writing but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were influenced or inspired by each other. Based on a quick search, it looks like the Vikings didn’t invade Ireland until around the 17th century, but I’m not familiar with any trade history or other travel that would have been present before then.

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I found this, it dates a rune stone from 11th century but states it was moved so may not have originated where it was found. So we’re getting further back in time. :grin:. Let the excavations begin.

Rune Stone- Church Island - Cork City Council.

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The second this post loaded, I took one look at that bunch of grapes, swore out loud, and wished the supermarket was still open… :rofl:

Damn. Now that paragraph is a nugget and a half of wisdom. :clap:

I’m not sure if this is the place to wonder out loud, but I feel like being open is worth getting hurt. I mean, in the end, it always comes with a lesson, one way or another. :sweat_smile: Sometimes, that lesson can just seem straight-up negative, but those difficult ones can help reinforce our boundaries and push us into scenarios that we would otherwise be ignorant of. That’s what I seem to find for myself, even if it takes me a moment to realise the value in what I’ve been through and realise what I’ve learnt from it.

I mean, that could be a good thing. The paragraph I just quoted from you mentions how harmful keeping those hidden things can be to our own mental health. :wink:

With great difficulty. :rofl:

Nah, I’m kidding. I just feel like I often need to overexplain my intentions because they’re rarely what someone expects. And I often find myself having to say that I’m really just asking the question because it popped into my mind and I’m curious, not because there’s a hidden agenda behind it. I dunno. Maybe I seem really fudgin’ dodgy. :rofl:

As for others, I really appreciate it when people are direct with me. Even if I don’t always sound like it. I like knowing where I stand, and I hate playing games. So, sometimes, depending on the person, I find that having had a disagreement or argument with someone makes me feel closer to them because now I actually know more about what they’re comfortable with and what they’re not. It’s weird, but… At least the cards are face up on the table instead of face down, right? :thinking:

Anyway, thank you for attending my rambling. :black_heart:

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Oh wow, that’s super interesting! I bookmarked it to read over more later when I can dig into some research :laughing: Thanks for sharing!

haha well I hope you get some grapes in your future!

Thank you! :heart:

This is definitely an okay place to ramble, especially about communication since that’s exactly what Muin is about! I agree with you that being open is worth getting hurt because, either way, you learn something you didn’t know before. As you said, sometimes we don’t see the value right away, but when we can look back on those experiences and reflect we can see the way they helped us grow or shed what was bad for us (including people!).

It fits perfectly with the concept of Muin and difficult, complicated communication :heart: thank YOU for sharing it!

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I made it happen! I compromised and bought some Korean grape juice instead. :grin:

One communication thing I’ve started trying to do as of yesterday (or the day before, I’m not sure) is that whenever I feel the urge to say sorry, I just say thank you instead. :grin:

Maybe I’ve tried to do that in the past. I can’t remember. :thinking: But even if so, it might as well be new because I can’t remember it. :crazy_face:

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