đź“ť Spells8 Book Club XXXXIII - Readers' Reviews!

Feel free to share your finished thoughts and reviews from your book last session (Oct. 25 - Dec. 13) here. For the current book club post, please visit the new session post: Coming Soon!

A warm welcome to all of the Witchy Readers! :open_book:

The latest reading period for Book Club XXXXIII has now ended - thank you to everyone who joined in!

Members & Their Books This Reading Period:

  • Chronically Magickal by Danielle Dionne @Amethyst

  • The Volsung Saga and the Yarn of Norna Gest. Saga 1
    @tracyS

  • Yemaya by Raven Morgaine
    @Kiara_Astra

  • The Way of Fire and Ice: The Living Tradition of Norse Paganism by Ryan Smith
    @Jewitch

  • Shadow Work for Hot Messes by Mandi Em
    @MeganB

  • Practical Magic for Beginners - Exercises, Rituals, and Spells for the New Mystic by Maggie Haseman
    @Celestiowl

  • Pagan Portals: Persephone: Pracing the art of personal power
    By Robin Corak @celinelise

Even if you are not listed above but you read a book during this reading period/ you decided to read a different book than listed- you are very welcome to share and discuss here too!


Time to share your thoughts with your coven! :star_struck:

This discussion post will serve as a place to share your thoughts and opinions on the book you chose.

  • :heart_eyes: If you loved your book and think everyone should read it- awesome! Talk about your favorite points or something you learned.
  • :woman_shrugging: If you didn’t connect with the book- consider explaining why it wasn’t for you.
  • :angry: Absolutely hated your book of choice? Warn others to stay away!

This is a great place to share your love for books and find recommendations for new books to read :+1:

Your book review can be as simple or elaborate as you’d like :writing_hand:

If you’re not sure what to talk about, here is a suggested format you can use. Feel free to write as little or as much as you’d like!

Book Title and Author:

Status? : Finished / Still Reading

My overall rating of the book : ???/10

How does this book relate to my magickal practice?:

My personal thoughts/opinions:

An interesting quote from the book: " "

All in all, would I recommend this book?: Yes / No

Remember that your review is uniquely yours- this is a chance to let your opinions and voice be heard :raised_hands:

Please keep in mind that others may have opinions that differ from yours- when responding to the thoughts of others please always show respect! Remember that 100 people will read 1 book and have 100 different experiences. That’s what makes sharing interesting :heart:


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You are welcome to share your thoughts about the part you have read so far. If you joined the session late and have just started, feel free to talk about your expectations for your book. You can continue reading it into the next reading period.

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You have plenty of time to share your thoughts and discuss (until the next Readers’ Review Post appears in the forum!)

Deadline for Reviews for this Session: January 31, 2025

While you have plenty of time for reviews, know that the next reading period will begin in one week:

The Next Reading Session will Begin: January 1, 2025

On this day a post will appear where you can announce your next book (or continue with your current reading!).

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It can be hard to find the time and motivation to read on your own- hopefully book club helped provide a bit of motivation and that it led to some wonderful new knowledge and discoveries in your Craft :books:

I hope you enjoyed your books this session, and that you’ve got another fun one in line to read this coming month.

Happy reading and blessed be! :sparkles:

:books: :heart: :infinite_roots:

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I know I’m probably posting this review a bit early, but I wanted to post it before I forgot because I have the memory of a walnut :sweat_smile: lol

Book title and author: The Way of Fire and Ice: The Living Traditions of Norse Paganism by Ryan Smith

Status: Finished

My overall rating of the book: 8/10

How does this book relate to my magickal practice? I haven’t really learned too much about Norse paganism so far in my journey, so I figured it was time to read something out of my normal scope of practice.

My personal thoughts/opinions: I honestly wasn’t really sure what to expect because for some reason, whenever I’ve tried reading anything about Norse mythology/paganism in the past, it all seemed so complicated because there were so many figures with such intricate backstories and I got easily overwhelmed and never felt much of a connection to it. I admit that the same could be said for Roman and Greek mythology/paganism; however, because Greek and Roman history and mythology is emphasized more than that of the Norse peoples, hearing the complex tales of the Greek/Roman deities seemed a little less complicated. It was all about what I was used to being exposed to.

The way Ryan Smith explained the lore and certain aspects of Norse mythology was much more clear, concise, and straightforward than anything else I’ve read about it up to this point. I still need more time for the information to sink in, and I probably need a few more exposures to the Norse lore to better comprehend it, but I feel that I got a better understanding of it from The Way of Fire and Ice than I had from any other source.

As someone whose practice is rooted in mostly American folk practices at this point, I wasn’t really expecting to take away too much from this book. I was shocked with how much inspiration I got for things I can potentially adapt into my practice. The exercises provided in each chapter are more specific to what the author calls “Radical Norse Paganism” (a term that I have mixed feelings about, given the history of people twisting Norse paganism to justify hatred, bigotry, racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.), but at the same time, the exercises could be easily adapted to fit into just about any spiritual practice. This adaptability is one thing that the author pushes for. Several times throughout the book, he advocates for practicing in a way that is authentic for you, provided that you are ethical in your practice.

On the topic of any kind of exclusionary beliefs, Smith takes a very firm stance: he does not tolerate judgement or exclusion of anyone based on any factor. The only thing that he states that anyone should be excluded for is if they have racist/bigoted/sexist/homophobic/etc. beliefs, or if they continue violating the rules of the group. TLDR: His stance is that no one should be excluded for any reason, provided they are a good person.

Smith also discusses topics such as conflict resolution that are useful not only for the purposes of practicing Norse paganism, but that are also applicable to working out any conflicts that arise in daily life.

An interesting quote from the book: There are many wonderful quotes in this book! I have a hard time picking just one, so I’ll list a few that resonated deeply with me.

  • “Living tradition is this way’s beating heart. It is a spiritual practice that grows and changes as times and needs require it to. We are always developing and are never chained to the dictates of holy books or anointed leaders. The ancient lore that inspires us leaves no doubt reality is not fixed and unmoving. The world as we know it has not always been and will not always exist as it currently does.” (page 5)

  • “Values are a compass steering you toward the right path, not a map dictating what that path is and must always be.” (page 6)

  • “Prudence and discipline are good, but there are also times when it is necessary to take risks. Ultimately, wisdom is more than knowing facts and ideas, it is the capacity to assess their worth and determine the best course of action in a given situation based on what you can and want to do.” (page 102)

All-in-all, would I recommend this book?: Yes

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I has been a while since I have finished witchy book. But i work really hard to complete it so that i could review the book!
@ MeganB thanks for extending the book club. It allowed me to finish this short but robust book about Persephone.
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Pagan Portals: Persephone: Pracing the art of personal power
By Robin Corak

Status: Finished

My overall rating of this book was a 9/10
This book relates ro my magical practice because: I listen to who and what dieties i am supposed to work with when I hear a dieties name three time from three different people and this happened with Persephone at beginning of October.

Personql thoughts opinions:
This book is only 95 pages but is very dense and thoughtful. It has guided meditations to help you connect with Persephone, and her essence. Each chapter has journal prompts.
I really enjoyed that the author reclaimed th narrative of persephone from the masculine stores that are about Persephone and elude to rape, whereas this author reimpowered Persephone. I ask enjoyed the crafts and instructions for making good to honor her, inscense and oils. It is very throughout book!

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I really liked this one y’all! It’s a gem of a book!

Book Title and Author: Chronically Magickal by Danielle Dionne

Status? : Finished

My overall rating of the book: 11 out of 10, if not more!

How does this book relate to my magickal practice?: I am disabled and I was looking for new tips and tricks to help my practice.

My personal thoughts/opinions: This is a WONDERFUL book, full of good advice and little rituals you can do to help you deal with being a disabled witch.

An interesting quote from the book: “I hope this book has given you comfort as well as some ideas on how to navigate witchcraft as well as the mundane world while being chronically ill. While there is no panacea, no cure-all to offer you, these techniques and ideas have helped me significantly as I’ve made my way through. Finding easier hacks to save yourself time and energy so you can use your will elsewhere is one way to add some power and control back into your life. Reminding yourself that you can still be effective at magic and participate in witchcraft is a step toward gaining your power. You are not alone, this is not your fault, and you are still a powerful witch capable of great things.”

Dionne, Danielle. Chronically Magickal: Navigating Chronic Illness with Witchcraft (p. 189). Llewellyn Worldwide, LTD… Kindle Edition.

All in all, would I recommend this book?: YES! It’s a wonderful book!

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Oh wow, that’s such a wonderful review! :clap: I will for sure add this to my list of books to read - I may not be disabled myself, but it’s always great to have books to recommend to others!

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I’m still reading, head in lots of books none finished all started, it’s chaos :person_facepalming::crazy_face::rofl:

I love all your reviews. More books to add to my list :laughing:

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No worries at all, Tracy :heart: I’m still reading, too :laughing:

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It’s good for people with depression and anxiety as well! And just if you’re busy and need to slow down. It’s really good.

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This sounds amazing! I have added it to my wishlist so when I get caught up on reading the books I have now I can remember to get this one!

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I hear ya! My wish list is miles long. It seems like for every book I read, I find five more interesting ones to put on my list!

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Very interested in reading this one at some point

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It was really good! I hope you like it!

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Book title and author: Spells, Charms, & Formulas by Ray T. Marlborough

Status: Finished

My overall rating of the book: 1/10

How does this book relate to my magickal practice?: I’m still seeking out as many resources as possible so that I can gather information that I can potentially use in my practice.

My personal thoughts/opinions: I like to think I’m generally a nice, understanding person, and I try to be someone who keeps his mouth shut if he doesn’t have something nice to say, but I have many, many thoughts about this book and I CANNOT stop thinking about them. Overall, I find this book frustrating. There are so many typos that I found myself wondering if anyone had actually done any editing on this book before it was sent to the printer. It felt like the author procrastinated until the day of the deadline, slapped everything down on the paper, and then the publisher sent it immediately to be printed without further inspection. I understand that typos are just a part of writing, but when there’s even one sentence that doesn’t start with a capital letter, that is inexcusable in my opinion – especially for a publisher at the level of Llewellyn. It’s not like it was self-published or published by a very small independent publisher. Granted, I don’t know much about publishing and how edits are made in future prints of the book, but I would assume that the publisher should be able to make “minor” changes such as capitalizing the first letter of a sentence or making sure that when the text references a specific page that the page being referenced is actually the correct page. The copy I have is the THIRTY-SEVENTH printing of the first edition, so I would expect the publisher to correct those errors by that point.

I have never had to annotate a book so heavily to be able to follow a procedure. There are times where “Steps one through five” of a specific working are referred to, but as someone with the memory of a walnut, I had to, multiple times, flip back through what I was reading to figure out what “steps” were being talked about. Maybe this is just my expectation of near-perfection from a published book, but if you are going to refer to a prior topic in the book you are writing, you should explicitly state “Steps 1-5 of Such-and-Such” so that it’s easier for the reader to follow.

I also found the insistence of sticking to measurements that no one currently uses – even at the time the book was originally published in 1986 – such as the dram, to be a turn-off from the information itself. What’s the deal with gatekeeping formulas by not using currently standard measurements? Why bother sharing your wisdom with someone if you’re not going to make it accessible to them? Maybe I’m just a “snowflake” millennial who likes to complain about things, but I find it irritating, especially when it comes to spiritual things, when people only put in the bare minimum of effort to make their knowledge accessible. I can’t begin to imagine how much work was put into this seemingly rushed, barely edited book; however, just because something is tradition, it doesn’t mean that it can’t be modernized to make the tradition easier to carry on.

(All that being said, there is a conversion chart in the book to help with measuring out a dram if one doesn’t have a way to measure drams already.)

In addition to some of the units of measurement being difficult to work out without dram measuring devices, there are several things that stuck out to me as highly questionable information. For example, the recipe for benzoin tincture is as follows:

Power [sic] two ounces of benzoin gum and add 4 oz. of water and 12 oz. of alcohol. Keep this mixture tightly capped and bottled for two weeks and shake daily. If you prefer, a teaspoon of glycerin may be added. After two weeks strain and bottle the liquid for use. (page 110)

First of all, “power” should read “powder” – one of the many typos I was referring to previously.

Secondly, what kind of alcohol is recommended? One would assume something like vodka would be able to be used. However, benzoin is a resin, and resins typically require a higher percentage of alcohol to dissolve than most vodkas contain. Most sources I’ve seen recommend 90% or more alcohol to dissolve resins, but the lowest I’ve seen recommended for dissolving resin is 80%, and most vodkas are bottled at around 40% alcohol. In addition, if one used a 40% vodka as the vaguely referenced “alcohol”, adding water would only further dilute the alcohol content, making it even more difficult to dissolve the benzoin resin. I question whether the recipe would even work as given. According to the Wikipedia article for benzoin, it is slightly soluble in water. As a former chemistry major, being slightly soluble in water means that at room temperature, and without the proper alcohol concentration, it is questionable whether the recipe for the benzoin tincture would work as written.

Third of all, what would the benefit of the glycerin be? What situations would the glycerin be beneficial in? Is it a texture/viscosity thing? Is it a preservation thing? I don’t think that one teaspoon of glycerin in 16 oz. of liquid (12 oz. alcohol plus 4 oz. water) would be enough to change the viscosity of the tincture in an appreciable way, and according to my knowledge of herbal medicine preparation, that percentage of glycerin wouldn’t be adequate to add any preservative property to the mixture.

Another thing that frustrated me was the lack of explanation/introduction where it would be beneficial: Chapter 10 is titled “Lagniappe”, but that term is never mentioned (unless I missed it) anywhere else in the book, and there’s no introduction or explanation about what “lagniappe” is – it just launches right into a ritual.

Upon Googling the term “lagniappe,” I found out that it refers to something extra given to someone, such as the thirteenth donut in a “baker’s dozen” or the little freebies included in an order from someone’s shop. I can’t find much in the way of how it relates to Hoodoo (the tradition that the formulas, charms, and spells are from in Marlborough’s book). I’m assuming that the ritual given is a preliminary ritual to begin another working, but it would be nice to know that explicitly before reading (or skimming) through multiple pages of ritual to get to where it says “Go on to doing the ritual intention, be it for financial blessings, health, to settle disturbed conditions, an uncrossing, etc.” Still, it doesn’t explicitly state whether it’s an opening ritual to lead into another ritual (such as creating a gris-gris bag), or whether it is a ritual for an unstated specific purpose in and of itself.

There is a passage that states “There is an oil called Zodiac Oil which is used to anoint astral candles in ritual” (page 126). It says that Zodiac Oil is “one oil which can be used for all the zodiac signs,” but there’s absolutely no mention about how to make it or recommended ingredients to keep an eye out for if trying to source it from a metaphysical shop.

Also on page 126 is a section titled “Basic Essential Oils”; in this section it says:

“Remember – two tablespoons of the flower or herb to two ounces of oil. If the scent is not as strong as you would like it to be, simply repeat using fresh herb or flowers until you are satisfied.”

Sorry, but that’s not how essential oils are made. Calling the resulting oil from infusing flowers/herbs in oil “essential oil” is flat-out misinformation. It’s not essential oil. Essential oils are created by a very specific process to capture the ACTUAL essential oil from the botanical. It’s possible that the author meant that the oils listed in that section are oils that are essential to the other formulas in the book, but there is a HUGE difference between essential oils and oils that are essential (i.e., necessary) for a formula. This misinformation, or (what I’m assuming is) purposeful misrepresentation of information, or at the very least ignorance and naïveté, is impossible for me to look past.

An interesting quote from the book: I marked a few passages as interesting while I was reading, but after going back through while writing this review, I honestly felt less and less inclined to share them.

All-in-all, would I recommend this book?: Honestly, no. I believe in supporting authors, but at the same time, I want the authors I support to put in the effort to produce quality work, and I’m on the fence about whether I would consider this to be an overall quality work. The fact that the recipe for something as basic as a tincture is that questionable, especially considering how frequently it is used in the formulas in this book, makes me question the validity of everything else. As harsh as it is, why should I trust an author with such numerous, blatant typos, questionable recipes and flat-out misinformation/misrepresentation of information? Some readers may find this book useful or inspiring to their practices, but I will likely not be wasting shelf space with this book for too much longer. I’m just thankful I got it from a used bookstore and that I didn’t pay full price for it. The only reason I rated this book a 1/10 and not a 0/10 was because there were a few tiny nuggets of information that could potentially be useful for me in my practice.

References:

Making a tincture of benzoin: How to Make a Benzoin Tincture — Botanical Formulations and How to Make Tincture of Benzoin for Homemade Perfumes | Hello Glow

Information about benzoin: Benzoin (organic compound) - Wikipedia

Definition of lagniappe: lagniappe - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

How essential oils are ACTUALLY made: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fvSoaDYXcL0

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Oh wow, this is a very well-written review for a book that doesn’t match the quality at all :grimacing: I’m sorry the book wasn’t up to your expectations, but thank you for your review! Now I know (and others!) not to pick up this book because while it does contain some good nuggets of information, the benefit does not outweigh the negatives.

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It’s surprisingly not the worst witchy book I’ve read :sweat_smile: I’m sure it’s great for some people, especially those interested in learning about Hoodoo workings, and overall the information was decent, but I definitely recommend that anyone who reads it takes it (as well as everything else they read in general!) with a grain of salt and recommend that readers maybe double-check recommendations for specifics on ingredients and procedures for making things :sweat_smile:

I suppose this is the TLDR version of what I was trying to get at in my review: This isn’t a book for people who are expecting to get every bit of information they need about something from one book. It will definitely require additional research – I’m just someone who believes that a book should contain all basic information and details you need to perform all the rites in the book and create all the recipes included without having to try to figure out the correct page to find something else on :sweat_smile:

I wouldn’t say avoid it like the plague, but rather that one should approach it knowing that it could definitley use some work :sweat_smile: lol

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That always got me, too! Ugh!

Or better yet, put the reference closer to the mention! I found that a lack of organization confuses me as a writer just as much as it confuses the reader!

Good catch. I missed that part. Rubbing alcohol is the only kind of alcohol I have in my apartment. After all, benzoin tincture isn’t meant to be consumed, so I naturally assumed medical stuff would have worked. Good to know even that isn’t enough! He really did need to try out his potions before publishing them!

Honey, I read this book back in the 1990’s, and I still remember it as being one of the poorest quality works I ever wasted time and brain power upon! I don’t trust the author with anything else, either, which is sad because he may have been spending his time researching something of value instead of editing his own work.

Sadly, publishers used to do in house editing which would ruin an author’s work just because they thought it would make it more saleable: ghost writers would add without the writer’s permission sex, drugs,or drama for no other purpose than to entice people to spend their hard earned cash on it. I’m not sure this ghost writing would apply, here, but I felt the value of the “rag” was heavily influenced by someone with no background in the information.

Thank you for this review. I hoped I wasn’t the only one who’s intelligence was insulted by this book. When I saw your eagerness to review it, I really wanted to hear your opinions, and you did not disappoint.

I would. Don’t waste your money, time, or brain power. There are many better books on the subject to choose from. However everyone has their own choice to make.

I’d give it a 1/10 as well. The one point is for writers who want to learn what NOT to do with their own work.

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I’m glad I’m not the only one who felt this way about this book! :sweat_smile: I think the reason I’m so heated (? I can’t really think of any better words haha) about Marlborough’s book is because I really, really, really, really, REALLY want writers on occult topics (and any other niche topic to be honest) to be successful because lesser-talked-about stuff needs to be passed down to future generations and spread to others who may not have normally been exposed to it – as long as the information isn’t harmful and doesn’t inspire hatred or division in any way, of course!

I’m someone who enjoys reading things that I don’t know much about and that I don’t necessarily 100% resonate with (in this case, Hoodoo), and it always disappoints me when I’m reading low quality or poorly written texts on those topics because I’m like “Come on! You could have potentially won me or someone else over, but now I can’t take you seriously!” >.< lol

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I used to be easy to win over. After a few like Marlborough (the time period was rife with them or I was susceptible to finding them all at that time in my life), I have lost interest in many things I could have enjoyed more fully for a longer period of time. I feel jaded and leery of trying something new, when I used to spend hundreds of dollars on books every month. Book publishers ought to take note that low quality books like this hurt the whole industry, not just one company or author.

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If you like Hoodoo you may want to try:
Hoodoo for Life by Angelie Belard The Complete Guide to Rootwork and Conjure with 125 Authentic Hoodoo Magic Spells

I haven’t started it, but it’s had good reviews. I have the paperback but it’s on kindle. I don’t know about Hoodoo much, just a little from my mum, Norse is more my thing (loved your review of Fire & Ice, book 2 is good too) :grin:

Occult stuff is hard to find but if you want recommended books Ivy on YouTube is an Occultist who reviews books, here’s her latest:

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Preach!! I’ve been hearing that the younger generations are starting to spend more time in libraries than the older generations and that the younger generations are starting to prefer books again, so hopefully (fingers crossed!!) that increase in patronage will lead to more time investment in vetting works before they’re published (although – being jaded also – I’m guessing that the quality of published works are going to continue going down since it’s so easy for anyone to publish anything they want thanks to the internet and self-publishing on Kindle, etc. :confused: )

Dawww thanks :slight_smile: I’ve been wanting to check out the second book also! I loved Ryan Smith’s writing style :smiley:

I don’t know much about Hoodoo either, but I’ve also been wanting to learn more about it! Thank you for the recommendation and the YouTube recommendation as well – You’re the second or third person to recommend her to me recently, so I guess it’s a sign! :slight_smile: haha

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